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December 16, 2004

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Checking Sources: More on the "Local Church"

I picked up the latest copy of ChristianityToday Magazine at church yesterday morning and, while leafing through, came to an article called, “The Chinese Church’s Delicate Dance,” by Mark Galli (the managing editor of ChristianityToday Magazine). The article is interesting — it’s about the duality of the Christian church in China; it’s government-registered segments. the “Three-Self Patriotic Movement” and “China Christian Council,” and the unregistered, or “underground” segment.

As I was reading, though, two things caught my eye: (1) Galli was on a trip to China with Living Stream Ministry; (2) Galli mentioned Watchman Nee’s “Little Flock” movement ( which he said was also called the “Local Church“ ).

But, what is so significant about these two subjects? Well, I haven’t written about my family’s ties to the Local Church in quite a while (you can read some here and a little more here), but we were involved in this church-turned-cult for some time back in the 70s. Within the last couple of years I have done a good amount of research on the Local Church, and can safely say that I feel like they are, in fact, a legitimate cult.

A couple of facts: (1) Living Stream Ministry is the publishing house for today’s strain of the “Local Church,” founded by a Chinese fellow named Witness Lee (please read more about him in the links I provided); (2) Watchman Nee’s Chinese version of the “Local Church,” the “Little Flock,” was based in China and — as far as I can tell — was fairly well-rooted in sound theology — the “Local Church” didn’t actually become a cult until Witness Lee brought it to the U.S. around 1962.

The “Local Church” is still an active and quite wide-spread group of people around the world. In fact, the “Local Church” had one of their annual conventions here in Kansas City just last winter… They usually don’t call themselves the “Local Church” publicly anymore, but rather “The Church in ‘City’” (e.g., The Church in Anaheim). Go ahead, try it: type “churchincity.org” into your web browser, replacing “city” with your city’s name and see if there’s a “Local Church” near you. You’ll be surprised.

Anyway, finding these little tidbits in the ChrisitanityToday article — an article written by one of the editors at that — really got me thinking. Do we, as Chrisitans need to be more careful with whom we accept as “fellow believers” or should we trust that God will protect us in all circumstances? I’d like to believe the latter, but I do hate getting queezy feelings when I open a magazine that I respect.

I don’t think that Mark Galli is, in any way, affiliated with the “Local Church,” nor do I fault him for accompanying Living Stream to China and writing about them without mentioning who they are. Not everyone needs to know the background of ever ministry they associate with.

Of course, I did feel like I needed to mention all of this here, but I come from a much different place.

I pray that God uses the “Local Church” in ways that I can never imagine. I pray that their members receive the gifts of God, sans manipulation. I pray that Galli’s article is just that… An article.

Amen.

(I’ve sent this to the editor of ChristianityToday.)

Posted at 11:25 am

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Comments (8):
I have so much compasion from where you came from. It is incedible to see how God is using you today. With regard to your question about “who we accept as fellow believers?” I think there is a happy middle ground. Your final paragraph is wonderful. I know some truly sincere believers who are Morman even though it is a cult and a works based Salvation and has an inaccurate view of Jesus, etc., etc. After getting to know them and being friends with them I found out that they did invite Jesus as their Savior though. I can relate to your concern on this issue. Whether believer (to become even closer to Jesus) or non-believer (to believer) we all need to pray that as many people as possible will “know the truth and that the truth shall set you (them) free”. As a matter of fact, I pray that I will know the truth as well. Its amazing how God speaks to us in mid-stream. Love ya brother!!! :)

dh () - December 16, 2004 at 1:17 pm

It is important to note that in all of Watchman Nee’s writings, THE COMPLETE WORKS at CFP, white covers, that Nee never once used the term The Local Church or Local Church as is sometimes used by the lsm/lc system of Witness Lee, that of course, Nee would have rejected if he was released from prison sooner, not within months before his death. Therefore, Galli is in error in making this claim.

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/bodyofchr..

Note point #10 here,
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/disgustin..

Troy Brooks () (URL) - March 28, 2005 at 9:14 pm

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/timsamoff..
Helpful words for Tim re: several threads

Troy Brooks () (URL) - March 30, 2005 at 01:38 am

Please read the following for responses from the local churches to the standard accusations made against them:

http://www.contendingforthefaith.org/res..

Nathan Cheng () - April 04, 2005 at 8:56 pm

Please read the following statements by Witness Lee that shows that he is unregenerated in a modalism god, that the lsm/lc never wants to deal with anywhere specifically in their contending for THEIR faith.

According to Witness Lee, the Godhead is a “threefold Person” and the “Father is the Son” in addition to Witness Lee’s followed idea in the flesh of his mind, of unjustified violent unholy screaming mantra sessions for brainwashing-sake, suing for faith to defend the denomination which is an attempt to superseed Christ for such behavior is unChristlike.

Watchman Nee said it correctly, when he said that “Is it not strange that many Christians do not seem to mind any insult to the Christian faith, but do mind very much an insult to a denomination? They can stand indignity against Christ, but not an affront against their particular denomination (p.222, KKH).

Bottom line: vague uspecific, deflecting defense of self by the lsm/lc cult will not suffice, since violent screaming, suing Christians for faith, confusing the Persons of the Godhead, even calling the Godhead a Person is hostile to God of the Bible which usurps their system, not Christ. The Council of the Godhead in eternity past of one substance is not a Person but 3 Persons. O how man hates the Trinity. What a sad state of affairs, not the least of which is bearing false witness against Watchman Nee as seen here below,

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Spiritual..

Please avoid the lsm/lc/leevitical system owned and operated by Witness Lee’s birth children (a cult) if you love Jesus Christ.

Troy Brooks () (URL) - April 24, 2005 at 2:09 pm

Hey;-)
Praise the LORD Jesus! I thought maybe I was one and maybe a few that seen these on personal level? Maybe I was wrong. My name is David Maxie and I’m a believer in LORD Jesus who has walked out of a few cults in my time. The local church is one of them on a personal level, and just as dangerous as the United Pentacostel church. Well, on a personal level, I used to be into black magic along time ago as well. But to me this is a long road of ministry. My advice as well is to leave the “local church” as well. They do not read the Word of God and replaces it with their own version. On a personal level, please leave this church to read the Word of God for yourselves, I implore you. God Bless!

David () - September 20, 2005 at 9:04 pm

Your testimony is wonderful David, and a diamond in the rough around these parts with that comment! One can isolate the 6+ major sins of leeism very accurately.
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/lsmlccult..

You got your ex-leeists still as confused as ever, such as Samoff, and the leeists still defending their cult! These sins have been going on for 50 years now in the lsm/lc cult.

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/timsamoff..

Troy () (URL) - September 20, 2005 at 10:32 pm

Comments are now closed. Sorry, folks.

timsamoff () (URL) - September 21, 2005 at 09:05 am